Hario V-60 grind

[Jim Saborio]

Excuse my naivete.

We have our Ditting KR-805 set at it's finest setting.
We wet the filter and heat the cone.
20g coffee.
30 sec "pre-infusion".
Stir in the water in with a Buono.
12oz. cup

Initial results are a bit thin in terms of body but the cup has incredible aromatics. Any success stories? Are people using espresso grinders for these? A 600g throw?

[Luke Shaffer]

Using 25-28g, different grinder but a step or so finer than "cone", 12oz cup, 30s "bloom", fill 'er up, ~ 1.5 min until it's all filtered through. Tastes great to me!

[nick]

Finest?

I keep it waaay coarse. My best V60 brews were closer to a french press grind. 20g for 10 oz. of cup. (I think your 12 oz is too much). I'm gonna perhaps get a little controversial here, but I believe that the goal when brewing filter/drip coffees of any kind is to extend the brew time as long as you can... as close to 3 mins 30 secs or so as you can. More and more, I'm finding myself convinced that you simply can't brew a truly great cup in 2 or 2.5 mins, or shorter. You can't cheat chemistry. With the V60's, I found that by using the long-neck pouring pitcher, you could keep the bed low enough to maximize the flow-restrictiveness (so to speak) of the grinds. If you floated the grinds or tumbled them too much, the water would flow too quickly out the bottom, and you'll have a weaker brew that ends too quickly.

I was all ready to launch a brew bar with the V60's. After much experimentation and deliberation, we're opening Chinatown Coffee next week with a manual brew bar using Abid/Clever drippers. It's much less finicky than the other manual brewing tools, and it's very easy to train someone to create a totally badass cup. Our barista staff is flipping out about how dreamy the coffees have been off the Abid/Clever drippers.

Sorry... don't wanna thread-jack, but just thought I'd share. Somewhere, out there, Scott Rao is smiling and he doesn't know why.

[sam]

I use a similar device called the Brewt. A nylon snap in filter and a lid to keep warmth, these babies are great. They are made for tea, but can make coffee as well. I prefer a paper filter, but with the right grind the nylon one works just fine. Brewts are available in North America.
here is the link:
http://www.brewts.com/thebrewt

Good luck with Chinatown Coffee, Nick.

[Luke Shaffer]

I hearby rename this thread... "Hario V60: why you should hate it". I'd like to try the Abid sometime, and I'm sure it is tasty. I'm just saying I really like the way my coffee tastes with the Hario.

But, I like Clovers and Chemex brewers, too... and some people like their cucumbers better pickled. What?

[Rich Westerfield]

I hearby rename this thread... "Hario V60: why you should hate it". I'd like to try the Abid sometime, and I'm sure it is tasty. I'm just saying I really like the way my coffee tastes with the Hario.

But, I like Clovers and Chemex brewers, too... and some people like their cucumbers better pickled. What?

I was gonna bring one over to Matt for a housewarming present - can drop one off for you to play with if you want. Agree with Nick that in addition to brewing a great cup, it's easy to work with. Don't want to suggest Abid is a shortcut, but trying to get everyone here consistent on other pourover methods has been more challenging than we'd like.

Also have a couple of gigantic cuke plants in the back and am thinking of pickling some

[Luke Shaffer]

Got it, got some filters, and will do a "brew off" this weekend. Abid vs. Hario V60. Bring it.

Since not too many folks are answering Jim's original question, let's also throw this intriguing and "clever" brewer into the ring. Let the brewing device hatred flow